Whitley Strieber Interviews John Mack

While reading reading Zulu Shaman: Dreams, Prophecies, and Mysteries; I found references to some very prominent people like Dr John E. Mack, a very respected psychiatrist who focussed on the alien abduction phenomenon. Here’s an extract from an interview by Whitwith Dr Mack where he mentions how he first encountered Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa:

WS: Go to PEER Purchases, click on PEER Purchases, and you can get this book, and the price, for a signed copy, is an amazing twenty dollars. That’s four dollars off the regular bookstore price, for a signed copy of Passport to the Cosmos. And let me tell you, I have read this book cover to cover. You know as well as I do that I don’t read every book that we talk about on this show cover to cover. I read every word of this. It is awesome. Do not assume that it is a sequel to Abduction. It is far beyond that. John Mack has made a major breakthrough. Let’s go on now, talking a little more about that breakthrough.

One of the things that is so extraordinary about this book is the way you integrate indigenous people’s ideas and attitudes about this abduction experience throughout the book. Credo Mutwa, a leading African sansumi [?] or high medicine man, his ideas and his stories go through the whole book and they are truly amazing. We always think of this as being basically an American thing or at best a Western thing. But John Mack has blown that idea out of the water. They’re doing it and doing it better in other parts of the world. So tell us a little bit about this man. How did you meet him and what was he like, and what happened to him?

JM: Actually I hadn’t expected to meet him, when my associate Dominique Callimanopulos and I went to South Africa. Actually we were headed for Zimbabwe, because there had been some children at a school outside the capitol of Harare who had had some extraordinary sighting of UFOs that had landed in their schoolyard and they’d seen one or more “strange beings,” as one of the girls put it, come out of these spacecraft. And we received some drawings from these kids by fax, and telephone calls, so we were already planning to go to Africa but we changed our plans to make sure we went to that school. We also planned to go to South Africa for a week, and right then and there I was met at the airport and we were taken to a television station and there by satellite was Credo Mutwa because he had heard that I was going to talk about these experiences with these strange beings which he calls, or his people calls, Mandindas. Which to hear him describe those beings, [are] very much like the grey beings that we hear so much about here. And for the first time he then, he asked to see me. We spent several hours with him, and in a very movingly candid way, talked about the trauma that he’d undergone when he was a young man in the bush and had been through an experience very much like the ones that you have been through, Whitley. And at that time, I mean, I had never heard of Credo Mutwa and here within hours of landing in South Africa I was with this extraordinary medicine man talking about experiences so familiar to me from people in this country.

You can listen to the audio or read the full interview on the John E. Mack Institute website.

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David Icke and Credo Mutwa interviewed Nicole Whitney

Nicole Whitney interviews both DAVID ICKE & Zulu Shaman / South African Elder CREDO MUTWA together on News for the Soul! What secrets are held in African culture? What was it that compelled David Icke to become active in trying to preserve Credo’s knowledge and experience for future generations??

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Extraterrestrial contact with Earth’s indigenous peoples reveal Western societally repressed knowledge

Guardians of the Past — Harbingers of the future

by Julie Gillentine

Canada's Assembly of First Nations National Grand Chief Phil FontaineAnthropological orthodoxy insists that civilization began in Sumeria six thousand years ago, and the modern metropolis is the pinnacle of culture and evolution on the planet. But, circa World War II, humanity shattered the rails of our technological playpen, sporting new atomic bombs. And, it is said, Space-faring ETs took notice, and silver saucers suddenly filled the skies. The UFO era was born; Roswell was a defining moment.

An alternate view is emerging, however. According to indigenous peoples from the Americas to South Africa, they have guarded the hidden history of humanity all along, quietly maintaining contact with visiting and resident stellar relatives. Mobilized, now, by what they believe is the fulfilment of long-prophesied warnings, the elders of these indigenous people around the world have begun, they say, to break vows of silence and share their ancient secret stellar wisdom.

African Epiphany

Thanks to the work of Robert Temple, in his book entitled The Sirius Mystery, the startling knowledge of Sirius and its dwarf companion by Africa’s Dogon tribe is widely known. The Dogon possess knowledge, such as the star system’s orbital periods and the companion star’s invisibility, which cannot be confirmed by naked eye observation, and which modern Astronomers have learned only relatively recently.

Zulu woman from South AfricaIn South Africa, Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa, a renowned Zulu elder and author of Song of the Stars: The Lore of a Zulu Shaman, claims that, in terms of knowledge of African shamans, this is but the tip of the astronomical iceberg. Credo Mutwa has chosen a path of ‘openness’, coming forward to share secret star lore of indigenous Black Africans. “I pray that this effort will unite thinking people around the world and diminish the severity of our prophecies,” Credo explained recently. A master storyteller, he has travelled to more than twenty countries sharing his vision and wisdom despite the great personal loss which his openness has cost him. Credo’s son was brutally murdered, apparently, by those who want him silenced.

Indigenous cosmology of stellar relationships is complex, he explains, often dwelling at the heart of sacred ceremony. Rich oral traditions, including protocol for contact and how to distinguish friendly off-earth visitors from those who are potentially harmful, have been handed down from one sangoma, (shaman) to the next for thousands of years. Star lore is an essential component of sangoma training.

According to Credo Mutwa, “In every language in Africa, the meaning of star is Bringer of knowledge? or Bringer of enlightenment.” Elder Credo Mutwa has travelled the continent of Africa, sculpting haunting images of visitors from the stars, which were described to him by other African shamans. “These beings have been coming and going to Africa for forty thousand years,” he says. Some bear striking resemblance to beings reported by modern experience’s of the UFO phenomenon.

Cradled in South Africa’s Kruger National Park lies a private game reserve called Timbavati. This emerald jewel of the African bush is almost mythical in reputation. White lions are born in here, it is said. “A long story is told about a chieftainess called Numbi,” Elder Credo recounts. “Many generations ago, she and her people saw a burning white light like a star fall out of the sky right where Timbavati is today.

The story is that it was not a star; it was a shining ball of metal, brighter than the Sun. When this ball came down to the ground, Queen Numbi, who was a sick old woman at that time, went towards the light and was swallowed by the light. In that light, very faintly seen, were strange beings with very large heads. These beings received Numbi into the light, and for some hours she was inside. When she emerged and walked toward her people; she had become much younger than when she had gone into the light.

“After that star fell, stayed on the ground for some days, and then rose back into the sky, strange things started happening there. Cattle with two heads were born repeatedly. Lions, leopards and even impalas with snow white fur and green eyes were born, until to this very day. This story is one of the most amazing in Africa. Even to this day, white animals are still being born in Timbavati. Some years ago, a snow white elephant with beautiful blue eyes and long tusks used to roam the area, until white adventurers shot it.

“When a tribe of invaders appeared at Timbavati many years after Numbi’s experience,” Credo said, “they brought sacred stones which had been taken from Zimbabwe, and planted these stones there in honour of that place. Timbavati, which is Zulu for ‘the falling down of a star’? is one of the holiest places in South Africa . But now its story is lost and has been overshadowed by a lot of nonsense.”

The standing stones of Timbavati, brought from Zimbabwe to honour Numbi’s visitors, are reminiscent of megalithic sites around the world and give mute testimony to the antiquity of the place. Most of the stones now lie on the ground, overgrown by the grasses of the African bush, but the outline of a large circle is suggested. This writer stood on the spot at March Equinox sunrise–the beginning of autumn in the Southern Hemisphere–and the alignment of certain stones which remain erect pointed to the eastern horizon.

The standing stones have a resonant quality when struck with a smaller stone, similar to the deep, bell like resonance of certain Egyptian monoliths. Adjacent to Timbavati is an enigmatic place known as Manyeleti, which means, “Gateway to the Stars.” A community of thirty shamans lives there because they believe Manyeleti binds heaven and Earth.

In his book, Credo Mutwa relates a prophetic vision of four great leaders emerging around the world: red, black, white and yellow. The colours are the same as the Lakota Medicine Wheel, mentioned below, and four races of humanity. “These leaders will work to unite the planet,” Elder Credo says. “One of these, a female leader, will arise in America. She will be called the Red Savior, because of the fiery color of her hair.” Native Americans, such as the Lakota Sioux, have an expression, “Mitakuye Oyasin,” which means “All our relations.” Four-leggeds, winged ones, crawling ones, plant and stone nations are greeted as relatives. The Lakota Medicine Wheel is composed of red, black, white and yellow, representing four races of humanity. Within Native American cosmogony, it is natural to include and respect the Star Nations among extended family members.

Standing Elk, Dakota Elder and Sun Dance chief, recently presented an open letter to the Elders of Turtle Island. “My heart told me to speak of the secret knowledge of Native Americans concerning the Star Nations, since the time of our prophecies is at hand.” Believing the knowledge belongs to the world, Standing Elk has created Star Knowledge Gatherings, a forum to share this information. Sharing such secrets is controversial and unpopular with some native peoples. Standing Elk, like his African counterpart, has received numerous threats.

At Standing Elk’s gatherings, Native Elders share the conference podium with prestigious researchers in the UFO field. “Alien” contactees speak openly of their experiences. Indigenous Elders perform ceremony and give candid testimony of their knowledge and relationship to the Star Nations.

read the rest of the lengthy article on Cite Libre Canadian magazine website…

 

Credo Mutwa on Barack Obama, a poem

Barack Obama Deception Fall of the Republic
Zulu shaman, or sanusi, Credo Mutwa, has written a poem to express his thoughts on what he sees as the true nature of Barack Obama and the agenda for Africa and the world that he represents. This poem was sent to me by email and I published it to great criticism.  Today, Wednesday, 25 February 2009, I spoke to him personally on the telephone. He corrected one word, originally written as “deceive” and now changed to “receive.” According to him Barack means blessed one. And he also stated this poem is incomplete. I maintain that it is valid to have published this poem on this blog to raise a discussion.

According to Credo Mutwa in his visions people are plotting to kill Obama. These rumours are not unfounded because they have been reported widely in other sources.

Here is the poem…

An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of lifewearing a mask of an angel beneath a demon’s gown.

Pretence smiles upon the crowded hall of life holding out hope as bright as it is false.

Son of a woman in whose veins flows the blood of ancient Ireland and dark Africa’s plains.

You are Obama, nick-named the standing king You are Barack, oh, son born to receive

The suffering hoards of Africa look up to you, See a black saviour where nought but a Judas strides.

An entrapper of nations, bringer of dismal war Behind the robes and the nylon wings of hope

Oh, may those who look upon you, see you as you are. May those who hope in you behold you as you be

A prince deceitful to bring down Africa’s shrines

A siren who leads Africa’s ships onto rocks of obliteration.

Your rule my lord will not be one of peace

Your reign my king will not be one of smiles

Even as we speak in caves both dark and dank Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise

They will put around your head a bloodwet martyr’s crown.

Oh black Kennedy following the one before May God forgive thee and thy fiery spouse

As you walk in silence from the stage of life Barack Obama, blessed son, Oh standing king.

Vusamazulu Mutwa

Black Lion is… Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.

source: The BN Village

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Interview with Chika Onyeani author of Capitalist Nigger

Capitalist Nigger: A Spiderweb Doctrine by Chika OnyeaniI do not know if Credo Mutwa knows about this particular book because his health has been deteriorating since 2005 when Capitalist Nigger was first published. Whether he agrees with the views expressed in the book Capitalist Nigger I publish this interview so that you can make up your own mind. As a concerned South African I believe this book holds a wake up call for all those who are open to it, and will annoy the rest who are conformist or politically correct.

Here’s an interview originally published in Mail & Guardian newspaper from October 2005 when Dr Chika Onyeani visited South Africa:

M&G – What is the difference between what you are preaching and what other Africans on the continent and in the diaspora have said about the need for economic self-reliance?

Chika – My message is different in that they were always blaming colonialists or slavery for the black persons problems. I am not saying we should not recognise the impact of colonialism. But we should say that it has been 45 years since Africa was decolonised. It is time we said that what happens in Africa today, we are responsible for it. We cannot continue to blame the colonialist. Who said to [Nigerian military strongman Sani] Abacha and [Congo dictator] Mobutu [Sese Seko] take the money and go and put it in a bank in Europe.

M&G – So what do you see as a solution?

Chika – We need to learn to take care of ourselves. Indians wear saris made in India, they drive cars made in India, and [the] Chinese are not afraid to use products made in their country. We must do the same.

M&G – What is stopping blacks from doing what they need to do?

Chika – Inferiority complex. I met a man who says he is from a village somewhere here. He told me that the people in his village have lost all their stores to the Pakistanis. Why is that? It is because we are not willing to put in the same amount of time. It is because the Pakistanis are willing to work hard; they are prepared to work 25 hours a day and eight days a week. Blacks are not willing to work hard. They think that once you have a shop, you have arrived.

M&G – What about the possibility that the Pakistani, like the Chinese, have access to cheaper raw materials and commodities because of the lower cost of doing business in their countries?

Chika – People in Africa should not demand such high wages. The Indians dont mind working for peanuts, as long as it is for the good of their communities.

M&G – But there are wealth-gap issues in both India and China.

Chika – Why must we concentrate on the negative? In India, the larger part of the population is still poor. So what? India is leading in a lot of ways. If you make a call to credit card company, chances are it would be answered in India. Just because of the way they have been able to do the things. The reason we have so many people going to Europe looking for work is because we have not been able to provide jobs for our people.

What would you say to comments that you are playing into the hands of racists by depicting black people as lazy and inefficient?

Chika – I dont care about what white people are thinking. It is what we think about ourselves. If we talk about it, perhaps we will stop doing it.

Purchase Capitalist Nigger by Chika Onyeani from Amazon.com.

If you liked this interview I also recommend you watch the video of distinguished economist George Ayittey at TEDGlobal conference in Tanzania in 2007.

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